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设计理论 本人想在55岁之前造艘帆船,生活在海或岛上,直到累了。

whz
2013-6-5 21:59 · 帆船设计
whz 楼主 来自: 广东深圳
凿壁偷香 发表于 2013-6-1 11:07
我见过排水量5000千吨的油船,用6mm做外板的。实际计算,5.5mm就够,保险起见选了6mm。

记得98年的时候,我在老家镇上船厂做焊工,500T的船外面用的也是5---6mm的钢板,不过是走内河的,走海,我想8mm的q345应该够了,当然还有整体结构设计的问题。
2013-6-1 11:37
难得有个心动的想法,
rockforest 来自: 江苏无锡
经过大家的积极讨论,那就建议楼主采用8个的来做k列板吧,宽1.5米,外底其余6个。有机会再去了解下海边二十来米钢渔船的。

另外,同学提到老款博拉多43的龙骨压寨重,那个流线型的铁家伙重2.5顿。
2013-6-1 13:44
wangwang 来自: 新加坡
本帖最后由 wangwang 于 2013-6-1 15:30 编辑

我也有类似的想法,不过是用于退休后旅游和休闲活动,LZ彪悍,比我的想法激进的多,

补充一个问题:这种自制帆船需要适航证书吗?下水会不会被海事给没收了?

前一阵子看到北京的兄弟,在水库就被扣了。
2013-6-1 15:26
凿壁偷香 来自: 天津
如果真的要用钢板造的话,建议选用折线型横截面的船型。这样外板加工相对容易一点,否则没有大吨位的油压机,形状不好做。
2013-6-1 22:08
rockforest 来自: 江苏无锡
凿壁偷香 发表于 2013-6-1 22:08
如果真的要用钢板造的话,建议选用折线型横截面的船型。这样外板加工相对容易一点,否则没有大吨位的油压机 ...

我看过葫芦加火工加样条加工渔船外板,25米长的船,10厚。就是得请个火工师傅。

中泡面mid ship section 用折线性外板也是一个可行的更简单的办法,好像翟峰的兰船就是个。

楼主自己考虑那个吧,要好看强度好些就加工难些,要加工简单点强度够用就折线行。外观全在个人喜好。
2013-6-2 10:06
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可以合作
2013-6-4 22:13
激光切数控沖 来自: 黑龙江哈尔滨
求图纸
2013-6-5 11:46
三民重生 来自: 广东梅州
DUDLEY DIX YACHT DESIGN

Hout Bay 33

Radius chine steel

LIST OF MATERIALS FOR HULL & DECK

The following list of materials is approximate and intended only for calculation of approximate costs. It is not intended to be used for the ordering of exact quantities of materials for construction.

Lengths and areas are based on the actual amounts remaining in the vessel, without allowance for building stocks, temporary framing, bracing etc nor for wastage in cutting to size and shape as required.

This is a frameless boat so temporary station frames must be provided. For aluminum construction structural weight is not a problem, so we suggest that the temporary aluminum frames rather be left in for additional strength. Use 75x8mm flat bar frames with the stringers slotted in and the outer edges in contact with the hull skin.


MATERIALS FOR STEEL CONSTRUCTION

3mm (1/8") Plate - 67sq.m (722sq.ft)
3mm (1/8") Plate (radiused) - 20sq.m (216sq.ft)
5mm Plate (6 gauge) - 13sq.m (140sq.ft)
20mm (3/4") Plate - 1sq.m (11sq.ft)
20x6mm (3/4"x1/4") Flat bar - 10m (33ft)
30x8mm (1 1/4"x5/16") Flat bar - 82m (269ft)
40x8mm (1 1/2"x5/16") Flat bar - 104m (341ft)
50x8mm (2"x5/16") Flat bar - 60m (197ft)
75X8mm (3"x5/16") Flat bar - 2m (7ft)
50mm OD x 3mm wall (2" OD x 1/8") tube - 6m (20ft)
76mm OD x 3mm wall (3" OD x 1/8") tube - 2m (7ft) (Marconi only) MATERIALS FOR ALUMINUM CONSTRUCTION

4.5mm (3/16") Plate - 67sq.m (722sq.ft)
4.5mm (3/16") Plate (radiused) - 20sq.m (216sq.ft)
8mm Plate (5/16") - 13sq.m (140sq.ft)
16mm (5/8") Plate - 1sq.m (11sq.ft)
30x12mm (1 1/4"x1/2") Flat bar - 82m (269ft)
40x8mm (1 1/2"x5/16") Flat bar - 7m (23ft)
40x12mm (1 1/2"x1/2") Flat bar - 95m (312ft)
50x12mm (2"x3/8") Flat bar - 67m (220ft)
75x12mm (3"x1/2") Flat bar - 2m (7ft)
50mm OD x 6.4mm wall (2" OD x 1/4") tube - 6m (20ft)
76mm OD x 6.4mm wall (3" OD x 1/4") tube - 2m (7ft) (Marconi only)  

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钢板只要3到5mm就可以了。
2013-6-5 21:44
三民重生 来自: 广东梅州



Page 3 - Hull Bottom Panels



First of hull skin panels dragged into position and tack welded to keel.


Both bottom panels fitted and tacked to keel as well as along centreline seam.


Bird's eye view at the same stage.


Second panel each side being fitted. The builders did this out of sequence, it would be better to fit the hull floors before fitting any more hull panels.


Side view at the same stage. The pre-cut hull stringers are lying On the ground next to the hull.


Aft view, same stage.


2013-6-5 21:53
三民重生 来自: 广东梅州
忘记发图片了 weston9.jpg weston10.jpg weston11.jpg weston12.jpg weston14.jpg weston15.jpg weston16.jpg
2013-6-5 21:59
凿壁偷香 发表于 2013-6-1 11:07
我见过排水量5000千吨的油船,用6mm做外板的。实际计算,5.5mm就够,保险起见选了6mm。

记得98年的时候,我在老家镇上船厂做焊工,500T的船外面用的也是5---6mm的钢板,不过是走内河的,走海,我想8mm的q345应该够了,当然还有整体结构设计的问题。
2013-6-1 11:37
难得有个心动的想法,
经过大家的积极讨论,那就建议楼主采用8个的来做k列板吧,宽1.5米,外底其余6个。有机会再去了解下海边二十来米钢渔船的。

另外,同学提到老款博拉多43的龙骨压寨重,那个流线型的铁家伙重2.5顿。
2013-6-1 13:44
本帖最后由 wangwang 于 2013-6-1 15:30 编辑

我也有类似的想法,不过是用于退休后旅游和休闲活动,LZ彪悍,比我的想法激进的多,

补充一个问题:这种自制帆船需要适航证书吗?下水会不会被海事给没收了?

前一阵子看到北京的兄弟,在水库就被扣了。
2013-6-1 15:26
如果真的要用钢板造的话,建议选用折线型横截面的船型。这样外板加工相对容易一点,否则没有大吨位的油压机,形状不好做。
2013-6-1 22:08
凿壁偷香 发表于 2013-6-1 22:08
如果真的要用钢板造的话,建议选用折线型横截面的船型。这样外板加工相对容易一点,否则没有大吨位的油压机 ...

我看过葫芦加火工加样条加工渔船外板,25米长的船,10厚。就是得请个火工师傅。

中泡面mid ship section 用折线性外板也是一个可行的更简单的办法,好像翟峰的兰船就是个。

楼主自己考虑那个吧,要好看强度好些就加工难些,要加工简单点强度够用就折线行。外观全在个人喜好。
2013-6-2 10:06
可以合作
2013-6-4 22:13
求图纸
2013-6-5 11:46
DUDLEY DIX YACHT DESIGN

Hout Bay 33

Radius chine steel

LIST OF MATERIALS FOR HULL & DECK

The following list of materials is approximate and intended only for calculation of approximate costs. It is not intended to be used for the ordering of exact quantities of materials for construction.

Lengths and areas are based on the actual amounts remaining in the vessel, without allowance for building stocks, temporary framing, bracing etc nor for wastage in cutting to size and shape as required.

This is a frameless boat so temporary station frames must be provided. For aluminum construction structural weight is not a problem, so we suggest that the temporary aluminum frames rather be left in for additional strength. Use 75x8mm flat bar frames with the stringers slotted in and the outer edges in contact with the hull skin.


MATERIALS FOR STEEL CONSTRUCTION

3mm (1/8") Plate - 67sq.m (722sq.ft)
3mm (1/8") Plate (radiused) - 20sq.m (216sq.ft)
5mm Plate (6 gauge) - 13sq.m (140sq.ft)
20mm (3/4") Plate - 1sq.m (11sq.ft)
20x6mm (3/4"x1/4") Flat bar - 10m (33ft)
30x8mm (1 1/4"x5/16") Flat bar - 82m (269ft)
40x8mm (1 1/2"x5/16") Flat bar - 104m (341ft)
50x8mm (2"x5/16") Flat bar - 60m (197ft)
75X8mm (3"x5/16") Flat bar - 2m (7ft)
50mm OD x 3mm wall (2" OD x 1/8") tube - 6m (20ft)
76mm OD x 3mm wall (3" OD x 1/8") tube - 2m (7ft) (Marconi only) MATERIALS FOR ALUMINUM CONSTRUCTION

4.5mm (3/16") Plate - 67sq.m (722sq.ft)
4.5mm (3/16") Plate (radiused) - 20sq.m (216sq.ft)
8mm Plate (5/16") - 13sq.m (140sq.ft)
16mm (5/8") Plate - 1sq.m (11sq.ft)
30x12mm (1 1/4"x1/2") Flat bar - 82m (269ft)
40x8mm (1 1/2"x5/16") Flat bar - 7m (23ft)
40x12mm (1 1/2"x1/2") Flat bar - 95m (312ft)
50x12mm (2"x3/8") Flat bar - 67m (220ft)
75x12mm (3"x1/2") Flat bar - 2m (7ft)
50mm OD x 6.4mm wall (2" OD x 1/4") tube - 6m (20ft)
76mm OD x 6.4mm wall (3" OD x 1/4") tube - 2m (7ft) (Marconi only)  

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This page was updated 16 March 2008

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钢板只要3到5mm就可以了。
2013-6-5 21:44



Page 3 - Hull Bottom Panels



First of hull skin panels dragged into position and tack welded to keel.


Both bottom panels fitted and tacked to keel as well as along centreline seam.


Bird's eye view at the same stage.


Second panel each side being fitted. The builders did this out of sequence, it would be better to fit the hull floors before fitting any more hull panels.


Side view at the same stage. The pre-cut hull stringers are lying On the ground next to the hull.


Aft view, same stage.


2013-6-5 21:53
忘记发图片了 weston9.jpg weston10.jpg weston11.jpg weston12.jpg weston14.jpg weston15.jpg weston16.jpg
2013-6-5 21:59
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